Complex trading system #4 (Trend trading with EMAs)
Submitted by Edward Revy on May 18, 2007 - 09:06.
Trading strategy setup:
Time frame: 1 day, 1 hour or 30 min.
Currency pair: any.
Indicators:
80 EMA
21 EMA
13 EMA
5 EMA
3 EMA
RSI (21)
Trading rules:
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Dear Edwards;
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Regards;
Manus168
Thank you for the note.
Things like this happen in every business: ideas are stolen and sold for profit.
Well, this should be a concern for those people who pay for the information which is available for free.
Regards,
Edward
Dear Edwards;
I just want to tell you: This system has been stolen & sold in ebook(pdf) format by the guys called Jeff Brown with his ebook : Forex Hitman.
Hi Kris,
To make it safer we wait for RSI to cross 50.
I wouldn't recommend trading 5 min charts with this method, it'll be unprofitable.
Any moving average based strategy will be vulnerable during ranging markets.
Regarding Bollinger bands, you use them after you identify that the market is ranging.
The indicator for identifying ranging market would be ADX.
Also you can try developing next theory/idea (I haven't worked on it enough yet, so just sharing the thoughts.)
- Plot 50 Simple moving average (any time frame).
- compare the change in parameters of the moving average based on the last two days: yesterday and the day before yesterday.
- if the change is more than 10 points, a strong trend is in place. (For, example, the day before yesterday 50 SMA readings were 193.55 and yesterday - 193.66. We have more that 10 points progress.)
- if the change is 7-8 points - a weak trend is in place.
- if the change is less than, say, 5 points - there is no trend, the market is ranging.
If you like the idea, you may work out your own measurement of the trend in points.
All-in-all this would be unbiased determination of a trending or ranging market.
Kind regards,
Edward
Hi Edward,
One more thing, should I use bollinger band just to show me whether the trend is sideways or not? Thank you.
Regards,
Kris
Hi Edward,
Does this strategy not work on sideways trend? It hit my stop loss during sideways trend (bollinger band), although the price was below 80 EMA, the 3 crossed down the 5 EMA, and both crossed the channel 13 and 21 EMA. Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Kris.
Hi Edward,
Thank you so much for your input! I just missed the chance to enter a short position at 2:30 a.m EST..bummer! I would've gotten 30 pips profit (less than 30 minutes) or even 145 pips profit (3:30 a.m candle) if I had entered a transaction...so I guess now I have to wait for another signal according to your "complex trading system #4."
Regarding the risk management, after doing the back-trades I think in using your strategy (complex trading system #4) I need to set a stop loss for -47 pips in order to trade in the 30-minute chart (GBP/USD). Your strategy works that way, but it's pretty hard to get 47 pips profit, and I guess I will need to ignore the stochastic indicator in applying this particular strategy of yours.
Anyway, do you recommend to enter a short/buy position if the RSI 21 reaches 30% or 70%, or should I wait for the RSI to go back crossing 50% just to make it safer?
I'm glad that I found this web site, since I had been trying to find the best technical strategy to trade the GBP/USD for one year! Keep up the good works, man!
Regards,
Kris
Hi Kris,
It is very good that you are doing thorough research on a favorite currency pair.
I agree with you about news releases time and that it is better in this case to stay out.
Regarding risk management, you've got to have at least 1:1 ratio. Thus you would need to either increase your profit target or set tighter stops. How many pips wide it should be, I'm afraid I won't be able to suggest a number, testing and trading will tell.
If you favor Stochastic indicator, definitely add it to your charts.
You can also watch a quick video about Stochastic and a simple strategy of using Stochastic:
http://forex-strategies-revealed.com/trading-strategy-doublestochastic/c...
With that strategy you can determine trend on weekly charts and then take only Buy or Sell orders on 30 min or hourly charts to increase your odds of getting into a profitable trade.
Try Stochastic settings: (5, 3, 3) and (14, 3, 3) as well.
Best regards,
Edward
Hi Edward,
One more thing, is it useful to use full stochastic 21,3,3 (simple) as an additional indicator to this strategy (I use 30-minute chart GBP/USD) just to find out whether it is already overbought/oversold?
Thanks a lot for your help.
Regards,
Kris.
Hi Edward,
This is Kris from Indonesia. I've been trading live GBP/USD for one year. I just found this website last Thursday, and I think this strategy is awesome, although I haven't applied it on my trading activity. After testing this strategy by using back-trade going back until Sept 16, 2008 on a 30-minute chart, I came to a conclusion that the safest stop loss setting is -47 pips from entry. Would you agree on this point of view?
My profit target per trade has always been for 30 pips only, which, in applying your strategy, will be lower than the risk. An example would be on Sept 25, 2008. At 10:30 a.m EST GBP/USD closed at 1.8455 (confirmed bearish trend according to your strategy). If I had entered short position at the opening price 1.8454 at 10:30:01 a.m EST, I would've been swung as high as 1.8498 (-44 pips) before it reached my limit profit (i.e. 30 pips). Is there any way that I could reduce the safest stop loss point to, say, -30 pips, so that my risk-to-reward ratio can be 1:1? I think this has something to do with the entry point. So, do you have any suggestion of what time frame I should use for entry point (together with the indicator measurements)?
Last thing, I noticed that this strategy may/may not work during breaking news. Therefore, it's better to stay out of trading during the breaking news. Would you agree on this idea?
Overall, this strategy looks really good to me, and I'm going to use it for the first time on my real trading on Monday Sept 29 (hopefully there would be a signal). I'm grateful that I found this website and strategy. You're the man, Edward!
Regards,
Kris
Hi Walter,
You mean the system is more reliable on higher time frames, right?
Yes, it is suggested to not going down past 30 min charts. Everything over 30 min is good.
Regards,
Edward
Forgot to input my name as Walter :)
So is this indicator more reliable on a 30 min chart? Or better than a 1day/ 1hr chart?
Hi Joan,
You'll immediately find more false signals when trading on 5 min charts.
Regards,
Edward
is this system useful in 5 min?
thanks
Joan
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